Scripture & Conspiracy



This is a very difficult subject to be balanced in. I avoided this subject a long time, for many reasons. Mostly, because being involved in such things doesn't usually help and that God will overcome all men anyways.  

When I originally wrote this, I made Statement of Faith page:  

 Click here

And I wrote down my Vision and Focus.  

Focus:  

1 Cor 9:25: MKJV  
25 And everyone who strives for the mastery is temperate in all things. Then those truly that they may receive a corruptible crown, but we an incorruptible.
 

How can I be temperate in Conspiracies if I ignore them? But how can I be balanced Biblically by discussing them?  

Awhile back, I found a great page with a Biblical perspective in how to deal with conspiracies:  

 Christians & Conspiracy Theories - A CALL TO REPENTANCE

This was the closest to the Temperance of God I had seen, concerning conspiracies. But I think there should be more involvement to be truly temperate.  

We need to expose the darkness:  

Luke 8:17: For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.

But we should do so, without making unrighteous judgment, without proper witnesses. Because the governments are God's ministers:  

Titus 3 LITV
1 Remind them to be subject to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready in every good work,
2 to speak evil of no one, not quarrelsome, but forbearing, having displayed all meekness to all men.

Romans 13 MKJV
1 Let every soul be subject to the higher authorities. For there is no authority but of God; the authorities that exist are ordained by God.
2 So that the one resisting the authority resists the ordinance of God; and the ones who resist will receive judgment to themselves.
4 For it is a servant of God to you for good. For if you practice evil, be afraid, for it does not bear the sword in vain; for it is a servant of God, a revenger for wrath on him who does evil.


We must enter this subject carefully and not be involved in gossip:  

Proverbs 18: NKJV
8 The words of a talebearer are like tasty trifles,  And they go down into the inmost body.
 

Isaiah 8:  
12 NKJV "Do not say, "A conspiracy,' Concerning all that this people call a conspiracy, Nor be afraid of their threats, nor be troubled.  
13 MKJV  Sanctify the LORD of hosts Himself, and let Him be your fear, and let Him be your dread.


But we must realize the unrighteous men in government will be judged:  

Prov 29: NKJV  
2 When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice; But when a wicked man rules, the people groan.  

Psalms 2:
1: Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
2: The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed...


Our security lies in God. He will one day reveal all secrets and judge the wicked:  

Rom 2:16: In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

Psalms 33: MKJV
10 The LORD brings the counsel of the nations to nothing; He breaks the plots of the people.

So what then is the answer? Well just as satan has counterfeited prophecy with psychic powers, necromancy, and astrology; he has also counterfeited prophecy with conspiracy theories.  

Rather than trying to dig out with carnal measures the hidden truths behind the schemes of men, let God make them manifest. I am not saying that people who are some how involved or are on the outskirts of these plots who have decided to repent or acknowledge what they know, to shut their mouths. God may use such testimony, but those outside the plots who have no business in them, should refrain from using carnal tactics, to glean information. Those who have authority, let them use what measures they have. But God will bring evidence and He also promises to tell us before the major events take place:  

Amos 3:
7 For the Lord Jehovah will do nothing unless He reveals His secret to His servants the prophets.
8 The lion has roared; who will not fear? The Lord Jehovah has spoken; who will not prophesy?
9 Make it heard...


Perhaps you don't believe in prophets or prophecy? Perhaps you think God has stopped using such measures?  

Eph 4: MKJV
11 And truly He gave some to be apostles, and some to be prophets, and some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers,
12 for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ.
13 And this until we all come into the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a full-grown man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ;
14 so that we no longer may be infants, tossed to and fro and carried about by every wind of doctrine, in the dishonesty of men, in cunning craftiness, to the wiles of deceit.


Those ministers listed in verse 11 are called the doma gifts or the 5 fold ministry. The word "doma" comes from the Greek word "gifts" in Eph 4:8. I discuss the doma gifts in detail here:  

 Church Government

But as you can see by scripture; the doma gifts (and we are especially concerned about the prophet) were given "until we all come into the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a full-grown man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ" (verse 13). By no means has the church come into unity. Perhaps each year a new denomination is formed. Prophets still exist. I know there seems to be 2 extremes concerning the Prophetic movement today. One extreme won't acknowledge a prophet unless or until his prophecies come true. This is NOT the full method of determining of a false prophet. It is only a partial test, and one that is not 100% accurate. You would have to use the same test on the other doma ministers. If a pastor ever preaches an error, is he a false pastor? If a teacher ever teaches a mistake is he a false teacher? No. Men are not guaranteed by God to understand God's word perfectly:  

1 Cor 13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.  

1 Cor 2:2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
 

It is for this reason that James say's this:  

James 3:  
1: My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.
 

I speak more about the stricter judgment of ministers at the Church Government link above. I also discuss the subject of church failure here:  

 What authority and security does the church possess?

Further proof, God is not done using prophets, there are the 2 prophets in Rev 11 in the end times.  

What other method can be used to point toward someone being a false prophet?  

Math 24: NKJV
23 "Then if anyone says to you, "Look, here is the Christ!' or "There!' do not believe it. 24 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you beforehand.  
26 "Therefore if they say to you, "Look, He is in the desert!' do not go out; or "Look, He is in the inner rooms!' do not believe it.
 

Another method of determining the a false minister, is by viewing the direction he steers the church. 

 Jas 3:1 ¶ My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.
 2 For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.
 3 Behold, we put bits in the horses' mouths, that they may obey us; and we turn about their whole body.
 4 Behold also the ships, which though they be so great, and are driven of fierce winds, yet are they turned about with a very small helm, whithersoever the governor listeth.
 

Eph 4: MKJV
11 And truly He gave some to be apostles, and some to be prophets, and some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers,
14 so that we no longer may be infants, tossed to and fro and carried about by every wind of doctrine, in the dishonesty of men, in cunning craftiness, to the wiles of deceit.


I personally know of only two ministers which I judge as a false prophets. The first is Benny Hinn. Benny Hinn has declared a return of Christ physically, in desert regions of the Middle East and in inner rooms of christian meetings. Here are some links with quotes from Benny. At the 1st link you can actually download recordings of Benny actually saying this. Some or all of these sites have bad teachings, but they are correct in Benny, but not correct in how they deal with him:  

 FALSE PROPHET ALERT!
 Jesus is to appear in many places with Benny Hinn
 Jesus Christ Slated To Star With Benny Hinn 

The second is Randy Shankle. For a long time, Randy operated in error and abuse without crossing the line. But then eventually he spent so much time in error and he steered the church in a wrong direction. I elaborate why he is a false prophet here:

False Prophet Randy Shankle

What about prophecy besides prophets?  

There are 4 New Testament methods to prophesy:  

1. the Doma Prophet - Eph 4:8-11  
2. the charisma of prophecy - Rom 12:6  
3. the manifestation of prophecy - 1 Cor 12:7,10  
4. the spirit of prophecy -  

Rev 19:10: ... thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.  

By saying "Jesus is Lord", one is working by the spirit of prophecy. This is speaking prophetically by revelation (via scripture, inspiration directly from God, inspired by another believer...) of the truth about Christ.  

Rom 12: NKJV
6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, let us use them: if prophecy, let us prophesy in proportion to our faith; 7 or ministry, let us use it in our ministering; he who teaches, in teaching; 8 he who exhorts, in exhortation; he who gives, with liberality; he who leads, with diligence; he who shows mercy, with cheerfulness.
  

Rom 12 is the list of charisma gifts which all believers can have. These are from the Holy Spirit and are also categorized as the descension gifts. Those gifts the Holy Spirit gave to the church when the Holy Spirit descended. These are NOT leadership gifts, which are discussed at the link above "Church Government". The word charisma comes from the greek word "gifts" in Rom 12:6.  

1 Cor 12: NKJV
7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to each one for the profit of all: 8 for to one is given the word of wisdom through the Spirit, to another the word of knowledge through the same Spirit, 9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healings by the same Spirit, 10 to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another discerning of spirits, to another different kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. 11 But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually as He wills.
 

1 Cor 12 are the manifestation gifts, also by the Holy Spirit. These are given as He sees fit. These manifest only when the Holy Spirit desires, whereas the charisma gifts operate when the believer desires. These gifts are also descension gifts.  

Not only does scripture tell us to accept the prophet, but prophecy as well:  

1 Thess 5:20: Despise not prophesyings.

Do you despise prophesying? Then you are breaking God's word. There are many examples of prophecy in other people besides the 12 apostles. It is available to all:  

1 Cor 14:1: Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.

1 Cor 14:5: I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.

1 Cor 14:39: Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.

Perhaps you believe if the gifts are not done in perfection they are not from God? What about preaching, must it be done in perfection?  

1 Cor 14:40: Let all things be done decently and in order.

Before they are done decently and in order, they must be done. And it takes practice and training. It takes time to minister correctly. I don't know of any man who has ever ministered perfectly except Christ. In fact Paul had to correct Peter!

1 Cor 14:32: And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.

There is historic evidence that the miracles did not stop with the deaths of the 12 apostles. Look for the section (near the bottom) titled:  

Miracles, Healing, and the Gifts of the Holy Spirit Continued for Centuries  

 Rapture: Three Fascinating Discoveries!

The church fell into what is called The Dark Age. Many doctrines were forgotten and many gifts lost. There were some during this period who manifested gifts or taught Scripture who were persecuted or martyred by Rome. Then the Reformation came and began to restore many lost things.  

Now back to conspiracy and prophecy...  

I believe we can use 2 things to show us how the end times will "pan" out, scripture and prophecy. Many scriptures show "darkly" what will transpire. But we can also look at historic examples.  

Ecc 1:
9: The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
10: Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new?  it hath been already of old time, which was before us.
11: There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.


I believe just as the church was born and showed great powers and authority, that they will return in like manner they were. But even greater:  

Hag 2:9: The glory of this latter house shall be greater than of the former, saith the LORD of hosts...

And in the same manner of creation, the end of creation will be like the beginning. The VERY beginning was peaceful and without sin, the end will have something like this during the 1000 year reign of Christ. Sin nature will still be evident, but will be severely hampered by having satan locked away. The temptations will be greatly diminished. And Jesus, Himself will be ruling the earth.  

In same manner that man lived very long in the beginning, so man will live long during the millennium.  

But, when man began to get corrupt and wickedness ruled the world, God decided to flood the world and save Noah and his family. Immediately before the flood great evils were taking place. And so before the millennium great evils will take place.  

What were those evils? Man was very violent, but another great wickedness took place. Fallen angels came and took women and produced children with them. These children were giants and "heroes". They also were the birth of Mythology. Legends tell us these great men led much of mankind. Scripture tells us of the wickedness of these times. I discuss this in greater detail in my UFO/Aliens page.  

  UFO's & Aliens

I am mentioning this, as a method of determining future, rather than seeking truth behind conspiracies. As the world began, so shall it end. Right after the flood, as mankind began to repopulate the earth, mankind produced the Babylonian Government. Thus, God destroyed the tower of Babel and changed the languages of man.  

So if we use the same analogy, we will see that before the demons will manifest their monstrosities and powers described in Revelation for the end times, mankind will remake the Babylonian government.  

I also discuss the demonic attempt to control end time governments here:  

 Are the Governments Corrupted?

This is where we are today. Globalization is coming more of a reality, the reflection of the Tower of Babel, the unity of mankind which God had dispersed. Babylon will emerge as 2 systems. One is governmental and the other is spiritual or religious. The following links are not representative of any facts that I adhere to, just evidences of.  

Here are links to the conspiracy of the spiritual Babylon:  

 Moon Over Washington 

 Articles: Promise Keepers 

 PK Plan for the Church Revealed by Bill McCartney 

 PROMISE KEEPERS Is What You See What You Get?

 PROMISE KEEPERS and the Rising Tide of Ecumenism

 Promise Keepers and Roman Catholics

 Promise Keepers Claims Mandate To Unite All Churches

 THE PROMISE KEEPERS & the Vineyard Movement

 ANTI-CHRISTIAN CONSPIRACY FROM AUSTRALIA 

Using scripture both ways; literal verses prophesying end times and looking at Biblical history being reversed, we get a bigger and clearer picture of what will happen. This is not something new. In fact nothing seen on earth is new:  

Ecc 1:
9: The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
10: Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new?  it hath been already of old time, which was before us.
11: There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.


That was written by the 2nd wisest man in history, Solomon. (The wisest was Christ.) Solomon is telling us that the past is going to be that which is coming again. And he says that those after his time will not remember that which took place, so they won't be prepared.  

But, we can even get more of a picture through prophecy.

As you can see, earth's future will be similar to it's past. And America's future is told by it's past. America's past had a civil war, and we in America will experience another before we experience the end. The birth of America was by war against a foreign power and it's end will be through war by foreign powers. 

I do wish to say that using history or the news is an imprecise method of prophecy. It does however create a blurry blueprint for us, which then be detailed by studying scripture about the actual end times. I used to sometimes watch Jack Van Impe. And he is the best example of prophecy through these methods. But without the Holy Spirit and understanding Scripture on the last times, such methods can be off the mark and have error. One must be very careful and understand this is the lowest form of prophetic insight.

The 2nd best way to complete an understanding of future events is prophecy. But all personal prophecy must never contradict scripture! But it can often give us detailed information of what is to come.  

Amos 3:
7 For the Lord Jehovah will do nothing unless He reveals His secret to His servants the prophets.
8 The lion has roared; who will not fear? The Lord Jehovah has spoken; who will not prophesy?
9 Make it heard...


Prophecies of America:  

 America - A. A. Allen's Vision

 AMERICA WILL BURN - Dumitru Duduman:
 Archived copy
 http://www.revlu.com/dd.html


 AMERICA, THE FALLING STAR - Dumitru Duduman:
 Archived copy
 http://www.handofhelp.com/vision_16.php


 CHINA AND RUSSIA STRIKE - Dumitru Duduman: 
 Archived Copy
 http://www.handofhelp.com/vision_36.php
 

 AMERICA WILL BURN, Interview - Dumitru Duduman:
 Archived Copy
 http://ohuinpx.myusm.com/usm300694.html?t=Predictions


 THE BEAST STRIKES - Dumitru Duduman:
  Archived copy
  http://www.handofhelp.com/vision_33.php
  incomplete: http://www.angelfire.com/rant/watchman2001/DumitruSum.html#Beast

 A PROPHECY RECEIVED BY BROTHER DUDUMAN:
 Archive copy 
 http://www.888c.com/yDDfb.htm

 about Dumitru Duduman:
 Archived copy 
 Different, longer version: http://www.handofhelp.com/about_dumitru.php


To see my prophecy page, click on this link:  

 Prophecy

My 2nd page on prophecy:

 Prophecy Page 2 - The Days are getting shorter

We need not delve too deeply into conspiracies. God has granted us methods to know the future and has granted us security in Him, if we follow His Word and give Him our lives. That is the point of this page; studying conspiracies to learn of future events is not a fruitful endeavor. And can be dangerous. Besides the dangers discussed here, another danger is getting in the way of Babylon, and uncovering her agenda. There are times when God ordains nations and allows evil schemes to have their run. We are in such a time, and I discuss this at length here:

Babylon's Authority is Ordained to Come

I have written another page, discussing America's unrighteous judgment:

 America Will Fall  

To see my page on the One World Government, the corruption of the end time governments, and the rebuilding of Babylon, click the link below:

 Are the Governments Corrupted?

 If you wish to see my page on: UFO's & Aliens:  

  Click here

Another page of mine:

 The Anti-christ, Whore of Babylon, & more 
 



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