|The Paranormal - part 3|
UFO's & Aliens
Many "Christian" UFO webpages/sites use The Book of Enoch and other sources to deal with aliens and UFO's. I refuse to use The Book of Enoch because it is NOT in the Bible. It is not part of scripture. This page will not use it, and I maintain all stances here based on scripture.
There many accounts of UFO's (unidentified flying objects) and aliens. I once believed in them myself. In fact, my wife has also seen a UFO floating above the building next to her apartment complex, in the foreign country she is from. It was hovering above it by 50 feet or so. She was a couple blocks away when she saw it. Many other people had seen it as well, and it made the local newspaper or radio. One man was at the entryway of a building when a beam of light came upon him. I believe my wife, but I do not believe these to be aliens.
Some UFO's could be experimental government aircraft. Some could be regular aircraft or natural phenomena. But not in some cases. I believe my wife may have seen a demonic manifestation or a real ship being flown by demons, if it wasn't an experimental aircraft.
Where do I get this outlandish idea? Lets read from the Bible:
Gen 6: MKJV
1 And it happened, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and when daughters were born to them,
2 the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were good. And they took wives for themselves from all whom they chose.
3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, in his erring; he is flesh. Yet his days shall be a hundred and twenty years.
4 There were giants in the earth in those days. And also after that, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore to them, they were mighty men who existed of old, men of renown.
The sons of God mentioned here are demons, or fallen angels. There is a big debate whether this is true. But this is solved in another scripture:
Job 1:6: Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
In the NIV it calls the "sons of God": 'angels'. Here in the King James they are the "sons of God". The Nephilim are mighty men or giants. These are hybrids of human seed made by fallen angels.
John M. Allegro, The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross or Raymond E. Fowler, The Watchers (different websites claim different sources)
"The Hebrew word for giants (nephilum) literally means the fallen-down-ones because these tall celestial beings fell from the sky... They were known as the Rephaim [Hebrew for 'phantoms'], Emim, Anakim, Horim, Avim, and Zamzummim. Some scholars speculate that this tradition of giants born from the union of gods and humans formed the basis for the demigod of Greek mythology."
To see a study on these verses:
Hermeneutical Look at Genesis 6:1-8 - an excellent scriptural study on the subject, by someone else.
also found here: http://www.logoschristian.org/ufosrevealed.com//a3gen.htm
Today if you study UFO's and aliens, not only do we hear about "regular" abductions and experimentations, you will also hear stories of women being impregnated by the aliens or their fetuses are taken from them. Others tell stories that the aliens have children that they are raising. These accounts are similar to the account in Gen 6. And one possible explanation is that fallen angels are taking the seed of men, manipulating it and impregnating women. The result is a hybrid of humans. These beings may be of some "superior" quality. Whether it be in size or intellect or both. In Genesis it is said "They were the heroes of old, men of renown.". Although further down, in a link I will give, it discusses that the superior quality was lost, after the flood of Noah. Also the end result may be for a psychological or deceptive effect on mankind instead. And it is this 2nd effect I tend to believe in, as I do not believe that there will be any success as it was done in Gen 6 any more.
I believe, and some other scholars as well, that these spawned beings, (back in the time of Gen 6) were the origins of many deities from the pagan religions. This was the birth of mythology. They were superior and they made humans worship them. We can read many times in the Bible about giants on the earth. These giants were also enemies of Israel, the people of God. However, the giants during the time of Israel, came after the flood, and were less superior (again a link below discusses this in detail).
I had a friend, who was involved in a cult. They had a huge sail ship, and sailed the oceans looking for the place that aliens would land. They thought the aliens would land on some island and they wanted to meet them. They studied Hebrew and these very verses I have shown you, believing the opposite of what I propose here. They think they were not demons or angels but aliens.
I do have some evidence I will share with you. There is a christian organization that studies UFO and alien abductions. They have a web page linking to actual UFO and alien encounters with some people who are christians and/or people who have stopped alien encounters by the use of the name of Jesus. If you wish to take a look, go to the following web site:
Click here to see or hear testimonies of alien/demon encounters
You can find their homepage at the bottom of this page. There are some teachings on some christian web sites that discuss UFO's which I think are completely untrue. I will discuss these and use Biblical understanding to show these errors.
Some christians believe that there are actual aliens on other planets who are working with satan. Some believe that there were beings on the earth before Adam was created. They use what is called the gap theory. They believe there is a gap of time in Genesis chapter one where it says:
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. 3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.
They say that in verse 2 that there is a destruction of the earth. Some people believe that Lucifer ruled the first earth (verse 1) with dinosaurs. Some also believe that there were people there (before Adam). They use the following scriptures to believe this:
Jer 4:23 I looked at the earth, and it was formless and empty; and at the heavens, and their light was gone. 24 I looked at the mountains, and they were quaking; all the hills were swaying. 25 I looked, and there were no people; every bird in the sky had flown away. 26 I looked, and the fruitful land was a desert; all its towns lay in ruins before the LORD, before his fierce anger.
I will now show that these interpretations are wrong. They fail to look at verse 27:
JER 4:27 This is what the LORD says: "The whole land will be ruined, though I will not destroy it completely."
They believe that Jer 4:23 and Gen 1:2 mean complete destruction. But, verse 27 says that not all will be destroyed. Verse 27 is connected to 23, so what is this saying? Jer 4:23-27 is not describing what happened between Gen 1:1-3, but is what happened from the flood of Noah. The gap theory would tell us there was a complete destruction of the 1st creation, but the verses they use say there was not a complete destruction. So what do those verses in Jeremiah point to?
Noah's flood was disastrous, but it didn't destroy everything. The fish survived and so on. The formless and empty in verse Gen 1:2 are just that, formless and empty time and space. Before there was any creation it was formless and empty. Those two verses are not connected to mean the same. There was no other race of people before or with Adam. The Bible says Adam was the 1st man.
1 Cor 15:45 So it is written: "The first man Adam became a living being"...
As concerning there being other beings on other planets, they would be under the subjection of Adam's sin. Because the Bible say's:
Rom 8:19 The creation waits in eager expectation for the sons of God to be revealed. 20 For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God. 22 We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time.
How could God, cause other beings who never knew Adam and the earth, to fall in sin just because Adam fell into it. You either have to denounce Rom 8:19-22 or believe God is unjust, to believe in alien life. Therefore, there is no one out in space to experience the fall of sin, except natural elements. The stars are even dying because of Adam's sin. But stars are not living beings, they are just material. Nevertheless, all creation is now in bondage to sin and death because of Adam's sin.
Another reason this can't be true is that Adam had been given authority over all creation. How could God give Adam authority over other beings from another planet? He wouldn't, therefore there are no other beings.
Another point would be; if there were other races of people on other planets, God would want them to know that Jesus came to earth to die for everyone, and that the gospel would need to be preached to them. Yet the Bible says preach to all the earth, not to all the planets. Again, there is no one out there, except angels and demons.
And lastly, to finish off the gap theory as error, we can determine satan did not fall until after...
Gen 1:31: And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Would God call satan's fall good? No. Therefore, satan fell after Gen 1:31, which means satan did not destroy any 1st creation. Would the destruction of creation be good? No! There is no gap theory.
I want to return to the discussion of these supposed aliens. These entities have at least 2 parts; flesh and spirit (if they are physical at all, I discuss below other possibilities). I am trying through scripture and scriptural principles to bring understanding to the nature of the 2 parts. As well as, use the same technique to disprove the wrong teachings.
One major theory is that demons are different than fallen angels. There are different theories as to what the demons are. The reason some people think they are different, is that demons seem drawn to possess creatures, while fallen angels do not. This is inconclusive, and cannot be true if satan will possess the anti-christ. The idea is all speculation, based upon observance of some demonic possession in the Bible.
Some say that the demons and/or the aliens are actually the spirits of those people who existed before Adam, when Lucifer supposedly ruled the world. Some say the spirits from that time are possessing fleshly bodies to fly these ships. As I describe in the GHOST section ( Click here ), God causes the dead to go to heaven or hell, they do not stray upon the earth. Therefore that can't be true.
Some claim that these demons or aliens are the spirits of the Nephilim; the giants or hybrids of humanity. Now this takes a bit more scrutiny. First, to make such a doctrine on demons when the Bible is quiet about it, is a mistake. The next thing to think about, is: were these beings capable of dying? If these were beings that lived and died, then they also must go to a designated resting place, separated from the living. If however, as some believe, that these beings were just bodies possessed by fallen angels, then we have another matter.
The following scripture uses similar Hebrew words as the Gen 6 account:
Isa 26: NKJV
13 O LORD our God, masters besides You Have had dominion over us; But by You only we make mention of Your name. 14 They are dead, they will not live; They are deceased, they will not rise. Therefore You have punished and destroyed them, And made all their memory to perish.
The word rapha is a title given to some of the demonic spirits, the hybrid nephilim, that were chained during the flood of Noah. This word has been misleadingly translated "departed spirits" in most Bibles. Rapha occurs nowhere in scripture except in reference to certain rebel angels responsible for creating "nephilim", hybrid fleshy creations genetically engineered from the daughters of Adam [Genesis 6] to house, or "be possessed by" the rebel angels who forsake their God-given spiritual forms. These rapha will eventually be loosed from their bonds and judged.
People are claiming that this proves that the spirits of these Nephilim are now walking around as ghosts and are not fallen angels. This verse say's no such thing. In fact, it furthers my stance that these beings were empty of souls. In other words, they were flesh and spirit only (dualistic). Man and God are triune ( Click here ). They were just flesh "robots" possessed by fallen angels. As such, there are no souls to put in hell, nor a soul to resurrect. The fallen angel then goes back to it's state before it possessed the "flesh bot".
If this were the case, then demons are just fallen angels, not a second kind of evil spirit. Just a kind of ranking that possessed the bodies of these giants or Nephilim. So they would all be fallen angels, which are waiting for judgment.
Some would say that these are some other spirit being besides fallen angels possessing superior human flesh, I would like to know the origin of such a spirit from the Bible. And none have ever been shown.
On Sept 23, I am relenting a bit on a possibility I did not see. It is thought by some that the fallen angels drank blood to produce a body that could die, and thus had the ability to reproduce with mankind. I still am reluctant to believe this, but its a possibility to consider. I will leave you with a video that discusses this more here:
We can only guess what exactly the Nephilim were. But there are only a couple of options. Either they were just super humans with DNA that was tampered with by fallen angels, who were in complete subjection to the fallen angels (willing servants) or they were just empty bodies possessed by the fallen angels themselves (I call them flesh bots).
If they were super humans that were evil, then they may indeed be a different kind of being (a corrupted form of man). But a living being they would have been, and if they died, then they were subject to the same laws of death that all mankind were subject to before Christ came. (The anti-christ and the false prophet are both thrown into the Lake of Fire and they are "special" humans.) This means they could not be roaming around as the demons on the earth disembodied, ready to possess another body. They would be put in hell (or the Lake of Fire), like other dead men (if they did not follow God). Or imprisoned elsewhere (as some fallen angels are). If they were fallen angels possessing these superior bodies, then yes, they could be wandering around today on the earth as demons, because originally they were fallen angels, taking possession of these bodies.
I dare to throw in another possibility of why demons seem to possess creatures and fallen angels seem not to...
What I suggest is this: that when fallen angels get into warfare with holy angels and lose battle; the fallen angel becomes wounded to some unhealable state, becoming an eternally wounded spirit. Angels on the other hand, if they are wounded can go to God for healing. Angels are eternal beings, they do not die, no matter how bad their battles are, and thus are not taken to the places of the dead. Although some have been reserved in judgment. This is believed because they committed certain sins, most likely the very manipulation of human DNA which we are talking about. When a fallen angel comes to such a state he cannot be healed because he is separated from God. He then exists in some tormented form which seeks wholeness with more compulsion than an undefeated fallen angel. Driven to this state, they may seek their 'wholeness' and 'healing' by possessing a living creature. At such a state they begged Jesus to not be sent to the abyss before their time. (See the parable below.) I think that when all fallen angels are sent into the Lake of Fire at the time of Judgment they all will be put into such a state of eternal hurt. This may even take place when they are finally kicked out of heaven.
Luke 8: MKJV
27 And He going out onto land, He met a certain man out of the city, who had had demons a long time, and put on no clothes, nor stayed in a house, but among the tombs.
28 And seeing Jesus, he cried out and fell down before Him and said with a loud voice, What is to me and to You, Jesus, Son of God the Most High? I beseech You, Do not torment me!
29 (For He had commanded the unclean spirit to come out of the man. For oftentimes it had seized him. And he had been kept bound in chains and in fetters, and he broke the bands and was driven into the deserted places by the demons.)
30 And Jesus asked him, saying, What is your name? And he said, Legion; because many demons had entered into him.
31 And they begged Him that He would not command them to go out into the abyss.
32 And there was there a herd of many pigs feeding on the mountain. And they begged Him that He would allow them to enter into them. And He allowed them.
33 And coming out of the man, the demons entered into the pigs. And the herd ran violently down a steep place into the lake and were choked.
Luke 11: MKJV
24 When the unclean spirit has gone out of a man, he walks through dry places seeking rest. And finding none, he says, I will return to my house from which I came out.
25 And when he comes, he finds it swept and decorated.
26 And he goes and takes seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and entering in, they dwell there. And the last state of that man is worse than the first.
If a sinful man is moved to be filled by other things and persons (drugs, sex, and so on), could a wounded fallen angel have a similar longing to be filled? Worldly people who are wounded sometimes seek to lose themselves in fornication. Could fallen angels be driven by such a pain to do the same with women? Could their wounded state drive them to seek wholeness by possessing creatures? My theory is speculation only, but is a possible understanding of the origins of demons vs. fallen angels. I believe this is evidenced by the defeat of satan by Michael in Rev 12 and by satan possessing the anti-christ at that time. It also is comparable to the biblical truth of fallen man. Regardless, demons are fallen angels.
I have found other possible evidence that this theory is true. There is 1 particular vision by a man I believe in. Oden Hetrick claimed to have visited heaven many times. In his visits to heaven he seen believers coupled and that they would worship God sharing the same space similar to God and Jesus. I have read other accounts that Jesus would share the same space as the Father and step in and out to perform and do other things. You can read his account here:
INSIDE THE GATES OF HEAVEN
Again, if true, this would be a connection to why demons possess creatures (animals and humans). You can read more about Oden Hetrick here:
Near Death Experiences & Visions
I may have slightly eluded to this elsewhere, but have failed to give fully another possibility to many abductions, visits to other places (including on other planets or in the earth), and the possibility of what the hybrids or aliens are, in some cases or many cases. It is completely possible that the visitation by a demon brings with it a vision and the occurrences within that vision are spiritual or hallucinatory and are not physical at all.
The Bible shows us of such cases between men and spirits. This is discussed fairly well here:
That page fails to understand the true possibility of demons manipulating human DNA and cloning as a probable understanding of Gen 6. While it is true that many such visits are indeed not physical, we cannot be certain if none or all are. We can only guess.
The website above discusses in more depth why there can't be any more Nephillim or giants now and sends you to this page here:
While they seem (I haven't fully studied it myself) to have a great explanation of no more giants after the flood in Bible times (this is the link I referred to earlier about giants losing their superior attributes after the flood), they have a faulty explanation why it can't happen now. They state:
As such it makes the most sense that no other fallen angels would attempt to repeat this crime, and face the same punishment. As God is consistent, it makes sense they would face the same punishment. So it seems safe to say no other fallen angel would commit this crime, because of the consequences, and this is consistent with God not describing any repeat of this crime after the flood. And Eze 31 also explains that the fallen angels were imprisoned to the end that no other ones would repeat what they had done, in it’s allegory about the trees.
This is in reference to the punishment described in Jude, which I will share below. Now it is true God is consistent, but that doesn't mean God will judge them right away. He didn't stop them immediately before, so it may take time to do so again, besides we do know if this is true, Jesus is sure to come soon and indeed put a stop to it! As for it stopping other demons from the same sin, that's ridiculous. Satan, himself, knows scripture and thus has heard and read about his demise, and has it stopped him? No! Demons have no light, no revelation, and are completely without God. They are addicted to sin and cannot repent. They are unsaveable! I discuss this here:
An Answer to Universalism
The reference to Ezek 31 is interesting, and here is part of it:
Eze 31:14 To the end that none of all the trees by the waters exalt themselves for their height, neither shoot up their top among the thick boughs, neither their trees stand up in their height, all that drink water: for they are all delivered unto death, to the nether parts of the earth, in the midst of the children of men, with them that go down to the pit.
This says they will fail and fall, but it doesn't say they won't try! And I know they won't succeed, as I describe on this page; the threat (if any, I still am unsure, but it is possible), of this plan will not succeed. That is the plan to create a hybrid or a cloned human with modified DNA. It won't have near the depth or manifestation as Gen 6. The biggest success may be the rapture explanation, as they will be blamed for taking the Christians when the rapture occurs (a mass UFO abduction lie). But they still may create a few monstrosities, but they will be a visual and psychological threat, not a physical one. That is, no giants running around wiping out mankind, nor any powerful mythical leaders leading armies. Just a small nuisance and elaborate deception.
By the way, I also use Ezek 31 to describe satan's place in the fall of mankind here:
There is one more thing to consider, if God promises something will be done, He makes a proclamation. And we have a clear record of Him doing such right at this same time period:
Gen 9:11 And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.
12 ¶ And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:
13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.
14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:
15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.
16 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.
17 And God said unto Noah, This is the token of the covenant, which I have established between me and all flesh that is upon the earth.
Here we see God promising there will be no more floods to destroy the earth, and He sealed that promise with the rainbow. No such promise was made about giants.
Satan is not original, he cannot create. Demons repeat their tactics, though they may modify them.
9: The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
10: Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.
11: There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.
That was written by the 2nd wisest man in history, Solomon (the wisest was Christ). Solomon is telling us that the past is going to be that which is coming again. And he says that those after his time will not remember that which took place, so they won't be prepared.
But this page here offers the possibilities that would be allowed through Biblical understanding of what those supposed aliens are. Now it is also true that God may have indeed stopped such occurrences in the past and has held those particular demons in prison, probably for the seriousness of their sin. As understood here:
Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Verse 7 possibly identifies for us which demons these were in verse 6, by describing the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah. And thus we can probably agree that this would refer to the demons in Gen 6. One must also understand that God equates idolatry with sexual sin. Demons don't necessarily have to physically mate with humans for God to consider it a sexual sin (since they can't anyway). Their lustful desire manifested through DNA manipulation or cloning would equate to such sin in God's eyes.
Here is one Biblical example of where 2 different sins are the same to God:
1 Sam 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry...
Jesus said angels do not reproduce:
Mark 12:25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
And while those demons won't bother us again. There is nothing stopping other demons from doing something similar in the last days.
We also can see from scripture that visions or visitation from angels can have some physical effects. Scriptures show angels eating as an example. This is described more in detail in the link I spoke of earlier:
So it is completely possible that some or all alien visits are really just a vision or a hallucination, but we cannot discount the other options I have listed. But some other options have been discounted here.
So in review, aliens have to be one of the following or possibly all:
1. a hybrid, genetically superior, or a human with mutated/manipulated DNA, who was raised and made by fallen angels, whom are in complete subjection to the fallen angels (willing servants), or at least possessed by them
2. a clone or empty body made or bred as an empty shell for fallen angels to possess and live in
3. a visitation by a demon with the use of a vision or hallucination
Man has already cloned animals without heads ( Click here ).
More links on cloning men without heads or brains:
Where Is Cloning Taking Us?
Scientists Again Propose Creation of Headless Human Clones as Organ Farms
Morally Regressive Brits Clone Headless Frogs
So fallen angels could clone or make bodies without souls (no brain), making flesh robots for their embodiment. I even had a cousin who birthed a child that died after birth. The baby had no brain.
There are false teachings in the church about aliens and demons. While we cannot be certain what exactly is piloting every UFO (if they are physical), we know that they are some form of fallen angel or are possessed by one. Some of their ships have supposedly crashed, and supposed alien bodies were found. I also read of an alien being killed by an "abductee". Spirits can manifest physically, but do not have the power to stay in such form. Therefore they possess other life forms or create these flesh "bots".
Where are these ships kept? Are the ships real or physical, or are they illusion or spiritual? The ships must be real if they carry any physical body, which must be the case if ships are crashed and bodies are found. Or must be the case if abductees are placed in them. They probably do not come from other planets. Although it is possible that fallen angels could have some base out there. But no other beings are out there, unless fallen angels put them there; hybrids, cloned flesh bots, or human prisoners. But I doubt it.
The Bible says hell is in the earth. Hell is a storage place for the dead, and perhaps some fallen angels. Hell is actually only one place within 3 compartments. One compartment is paradise or Abraham's bosom which we read about in Luke 16 and the other compartment is hell. Separating these 2 places is a great abyss, possibly within that abyss some fallen angels are kept in prison.
To see an illustration of these compartments (the following page separates them into these names: Paradise, Great Gulf, Tartarus):
Here is a 2nd picture, interpreting these chambers:
And a 3rd diagram:
Or here is another page discussing these compartments:
The Five Compartments of Hell
There are tales, theories, and perhaps even evidences of holes in the earth. Perhaps most notable are those at the North and South Poles. UFO's are often seen at the Poles. Whether it is a physical opening or a dimensional gate I do not know. Also many UFO's are seen in the Bermuda Triangle. Exactly opposite of the world of the Bermuda Triangle is a place near China; The Dragon's Triangle. Many ships disappear there and many UFO's are seen. Opposite ends of the globe, could there be entrances at these 2 points as well? Possibly, but where to?
Abraham's bosom or paradise was emptied when Jesus resurrected. All the Old Testament saints went to heaven with Him.
Eph 4: 8 ..."When he ascended on high, he led captives in his train and gave gifts to men." 9 (What does "he ascended" mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions? 10 He who descended is the very one who ascended higher than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.)
1 Pet 3:18 For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit, 19 through whom also he went and preached to the spirits in prison 22 who has gone into heaven...
Here we see the saints going with Him:
Acts 1:9: And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
Acts 1:11: Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
Jude 1:14: And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints
Is Paradise/Abraham's Bosom being used by fallen angels?
Here is a quote from one source: http://web.archive.org/web/20080912022209/http://www.uforanks.com/agenda9.htm
Abductees are taken to different places. Some have reported leaving the ship and going into what appeared to be subterranean levels of our own planet, Earth.
One well-known abductee, Betty Andreasson Luca, reported a beautiful area with trees and water and several slien ‘babies.’ It was very peaceful there. She said that while there she was in an ‘out of body’ state, which the aliens had instigated technologically with a small device they carried on their belts.
If this area was underground and she in an ‘out of body’ state, it is possible she was in the area of hell called Paradise, which was deserted and left empty two thousand years ago when Christ took the righteous occupants to their permanent home in heaven. This is strictly a matter of conjecture on my part.
She also stated she saw what looked like angels guarding the entrance.
On Sept 23rd I found some evidence that Abraham's Bosom had been taken over by hell, and Paradise went to heaven. Check out this video:
So a possibility is that the fallen angels are using the great chasm or abyss that separates hell and Paradise.
Rev 9:1 The fifth angel sounded his trumpet, and I saw a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth. The star was given the key to the shaft of the Abyss. 2 When he opened the Abyss, smoke rose from it like the smoke from a gigantic furnace. The sun and sky were darkened by the smoke from the Abyss. 3 And out of the smoke locusts came down upon the earth and were given power like that of scorpions of the earth.
Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. 2 He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3 He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.
The difficulties with this, are the verses above and that there are verses elsewhere stating that there are some fallen angels in everlasting chains waiting for judgment. Whether that is hell or this abyss I do not know. But it does appear that a demon has a key at first and later an angel has it. Is God going to lock the fallen angels in their home as a prison for 1000 years during Christ's rule?
Isa 13: MKJV
5 They come from a far country, from the end of the heavens, the LORD and the weapons of His indignation, to destroy all the land.
Could that verse coincide with Rev 9 or Rev 12? That demons "from the end of the heaven" having been kicked out by God and the angels in Rev 12, are now attacking people?
Here is a link to a page discussing more in-depth the idea of demons/aliens in Rev 9:
Chapter 9 Lions and Tigers and Bears, Oh My!
This is just a possibility, not a doctrine. Only trying to fill in the pieces for you. Wherever the UFO's are located, is of little importance. Their purpose is not that important either, because we know that God wins.
Some people think that this is a plot by satan to create the anti-christ; believing the anti-christ to be a super human or a hybrid. Others think that demons want to taint our blood and our genetic line. Some believe that God brought the flood and destroyed all mankind because their blood was tainted by demon DNA, except for Noah's family. This is what the Bible say's about why the flood happened:
The reason God had the flood was:
1. how great man's wickedness had become
2. every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time
3. the earth was full of violence
4. all the people on earth had corrupted their ways
The DNA-blood problem, if true (which I seriously doubt) is a side issue. God is not interested or prejudiced about race:
1 Tim 1: NKJV
4 nor give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which cause disputes rather than godly edification which is in faith.
Rom 9: ESV
6 ... For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel, 7 and not all are children of Abraham because they are his offspring... 8 This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as offspring.
John 1: LITV
12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave authority to become children of God, to the ones believing into His name,
13 who were born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but were born of God.
Titus 3: NKJV
9 But avoid foolish disputes, genealogies, contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and useless.
If a person were to have some DNA that was tampered with, God would not just condemn them because of it. He desires all to be saved. But He does reserve judgment for the puppets of satan (the false prophet and the anti-christ, and this is not because of DNA). There is a fine line here. Fallen angels have no chance to be saved, but humans do, by accepting the work of Christ. Doing so makes you a new creature.
2 Cor 5: LITV
17 So that if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new!
Be careful of the false teachings out there. Yes there is some mystery to the UFO phenomena, but not enough for Christians to create strange doctrines about it. While I have some answers, other mysteries are left to some possible conclusions which I have shared. Many even discount the whole thing and don't realize that it happened in Genesis. Concerning the end times, Jesus told His disciples that His Second Coming would be preceded by many signs. Among these, would be, "fearful sights and great signs … from heaven" (Luke 21:11 NKJV). The Bible also says:
Math 24: MKJV
37 But as the days of Noah were , so shall be the coming of the Son of man.
38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day Noah entered into the ark.
39 And they did not know until the flood came and took them all away. So also will be the coming of the Son of man.
In the days of Noah, the sons of God came and took women and "mated" with them. These offspring ruled over men. Could these these things be happening now and with more to come?
The following verse is an interesting one. This is out of Daniel where the last kingdom of man is described in a dream. This would further the evidence Math 24 with Noah and End days:
Dan 2:43 MKJV ...they shall mix themselves with the seed of men...
This "mixing" cannot be the seed of spirits. Spirits don't have seed, as I showed earlier that Jesus said they don't marry (reproduce). God CREATED seed for the birth of Christ. In fact, Jesus is called the Sperma of God.
Luke 8:11 ...The seed is the word of God.
1: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
14: And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us...
1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
God has creative abilities, angels/spirits do not. The only mixing they can do, is corrupt/manipulate DNA. This was done by satan for the Tree of Knowledge:
The mixing could simply be the bonding of demonic spirit to human flesh, which also is very symbolic of the rest of the verses:
Dan 2: MKJV
42 And as the toes of the feet were part of iron and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly brittle.
43 And as you saw iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mix themselves with the seed of men. But they shall not cling to one another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
"they shall not cling to one another" - the human spirit clings to the human flesh, but a demonic spirit can be driven out of flesh in the name of Jesus (if one is a believer). What is interesting, is this mixture of clay and iron is describing the last government (kingdom) of man in the End Times. If this refers to demons in flesh bots (of which I am not certain), involved in last day governments, this is also viable evidence in my theory of reverse history described here:
Scripture and Conspiracy
Could some world governments in their turn toward the babylonian one world system, be influenced or guided by fallen spirits as in the days of Noah? Or by genetic creations possessed by fallen angels?
While I spent considerable more time discussing the possibility of genetically modified humans, remember its only a possibility, and that all or some accounts could be visionary or hallucinatory instead.
For those who do not know or do not believe there is physical evidence of UFO's, there is. Recently I discovered (June 18, 2014) a remarkable documentary from the History Channel. This is now considered one of the best UFO documentaries ever made. There may be 1 or 2 better, but I put this here because its from a great source (the History Channel). It's called "Secret Access: Most Credible UFOs". You can watch it free at these websites:
I believe there is physical evidence of physical UFO's. I could be wrong, and could be convinced otherwise, but for now, I do believe in genetically modified humans under the control of demons are behind this, and that it is not all visionary or hallucinatory, but once again, such cases are rare and are in the minority. If you disagree, please watch the video above.
Regardless, UFO's and their occupants are not friendly. What can you do? Is there a way to stop an abduction?
Philp 2: MKJV
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of heavenly ones, and of earthly ones, and of ones under the earth;
Mark 16: MKJV
17 And miraculous signs will follow to those believing these things: in My name they will cast out demons...
You can stop a demonic abduction by calling upon the name of Jesus. However you should know this:
13: Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth.
14: And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so.
15: And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?
16: And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.
Before you do such things you need to know Jesus as your personal savior. Maybe you have had visits that you do not wish to reoccur. If you are not saved you can learn how, on this page of mine here:
Click here to learn how to be saved
Maybe you are saved, and you don't seem to have any authority in your life. I suggest this page for those who are weak christians, or unlearned in the discipleship of Christ:
Click here to learn how to become a disciple of Jesus
The following link is from the same site above that gives testimonies of people who have stopped encounters with the name of Jesus. This link can help people do what I just described, however, as I have shared, many of these types of sites have bad doctrines. And while bad doctrines may not hinder the ability to stop an abduction, it may cause other problems in your life. So if you wish to have more information about stopping an abduction or an encounter from another source, you can view it at the following link, but be cautious!
Stop Alien Abduction!
Other things connected with UFO's are visions of Mary. When these things happen, often UFO's are seen in the area. If you want to learn more about visions of Mary, Click here read the section about Ghosts or go to this page I wrote:
Click here to learn more about visions of Mary
Here are some web pages discussing UFO's with Mary sightings, I do NOT endorse any teachings at these sites (some are very bad):
Blessed Virgin Mary Sightings Similar to UFOs
Marian Apparitions and UFO Sightings
JESUS, MARY AND THE UFO - more art with UFO's
THE ANNUNCIATION OF ST EMIDIUS - another Catholic "saint"
More Catholic information about UFO's and aliens:
Monsignor Corrado Balducci
"Extraterrestrials are not demonic, they are Not due to psychological impairment, they are not a case of entity attachment, but these encounters deserve to be studied carefully...By now, at this point, there are several considerations made with certainty that these beings do exist. It cannot be doubted. It can also be said...that this phenomena does exist." Monsignor Corrado Balducci.
The catholic church is being used by these demons, and are deceived as supposedly some governments are.
Bible Probe believes that many of the Apparitions of Mary are counterfeited
by Satan; many even contain false messages which contradict Scripture.
One series of Marian Apparitions, however, stands out with consistent
messages that are in line with Scripture. This was the appearance of our
Lady at Bayside, New York.
Below are from Appearances of Our Lady at Bayside, New York
(over 25 year period) about UFO's:
"They are performing now prodigies and wonders to confuse and confound mankind. You call one of them the UFOs. They are supernatural manifestations from hell. They are created in the minds of some by the demons, who are capable, because of great power upon earth, to control now the elements, nature." - Our Lady, February 1, 1978
This is disinformation by demons. Demons do not reign in hell, although they may use the abyss or paradise. Demons CANNOT create!
"While We speak of agents of hell, My child, I also wish that you make it known that there are no vehicles coming from other planets—extraterrestrial vehicles. No, My child and My children; they are agents of hell in transport. Now you may ask, why must they be transported if they are spirits? Ah, My child, this you may not understand. These are not ordinary spirits; these are the demons from hell: Satan's cohorts, and satan himself. He is also on one of the transports.
"There is a reason they must use the transports. I will not go into it at this time, for I am sure it would befog the mind of any scientist should I give this knowledge to them before they are ready for it." - Our Lady, November 1, 1985
More misinformation. More about hell, and a claim that demons MUST travel by spacecraft, even satan, himself. Hiding the reason....!
"I give you great grace of heart, My children, to know that many shall be taken from your earth before the great Chastisement.... Many of your news medias shall state that they have been carried off by flying saucers. Oh no, My children! They were carried off into a supernatural realm of the Eternal Father to await the return of My Son upon earth." - Our Lady, December 7, 1976
Demons are putting catholics at odds with their own doctrine. Catholics do not believe in the rapture. But when it comes, the catholic church will be the head religion to universalize the babylonian religion.
HIDDEN AMONG YOU
"Already satan is working his way into your consciousness, seeking to take over your minds. He is now promoting false miracles. Those you call flying saucers are images from hell. My children, if you reject the knowledge of the supernatural, you are now playing right into his hands. While he remains hidden among you, he can go about and, like a ravenous wolf, gobble up My children as they fall from grace." - Our Lady, June 18, 1978
This demonic information is a common tactic. The psychic in the book of Acts used demonic means to say the Apostles were teaching the way of salvation, see here: Click here . Demons can be messengers of light and even quote scripture. Jesus was given scripture in His temptation. All this vision does is drive the more Bible based, charismatic based, or fundamental based catholics back into Mariology. Since this "Mary" is giving truth, they think this spirit must be of God, when it is not.
TRANSPORTS FROM HELL
"Do not look for land, do not look on another planet for life, for there is none. Only those who delude you tell you this. What you saw, My child, in the past, called a flying saucer by mankind, We have allowed many to see this. They are transports from hell. However, We have never seen a demon, My child, who has taken on a human form, except through the spirit.... - Jesus, June 18, 1992
More misinformation... saying demons can't have a human form except by the spirit. Meaning that angels can for limited amount of time manifest physically. The effort here by the demon is to get them to disbelieve in the hybrid creations. Here the demon appears as Jesus.
PITS OF HELL
Veronica - Oh! Oh, I see a - oh, it's a very large pit, I guess, a hole. And sitting down there at the edge of the hole are some horrible-looking things. They look like animals, but they have almost the figures of people.
And they're sitting around now, what looks like a glass. And the glass is reflecting up through the hole, and it's almost like a looking glass because its... The rays—there are rays being shot out from this glass, and the rays are going up, up this hole. And I'm watching the rays. And they're shooting out onto the grounds. And as they're going up, riding these rays are these horrible, ugly things, these - I know they're demons; I know. Now Our Lady said:
"Watch, My child, what else is exiting from the hole."
Veronica - Oh, my goodness! There are things that look like bright lights, but they're like dome-like on the top. And they don't have any windows; they're just great lights. And Our Lady now is standing at the edge of this hole, and She's pointing. And She's saying:
"Man will not accept the truth. These are transports of hell."
Veronica - Oh, Our Lady's referring to these things that are being seen on earth. Our Lady said:
"Make it known, My child, that the false miracles of the end time are now at hand. Satan seeks to confuse you. Make it known, My child, that there is no life beyond your earth as you know it. Man will go out into space. Better that he uses these efforts to find his way back to God." - Our Lady, May 30, 1973
Lot's of disinformation here. Here we see the abyss opening up and releasing demons and UFO's. I am not even gonna try and sort all this mess. It's focus is to get the catholics who are interested in UFO's to stay away from the Biblical Truth surrounding UFO's and Mariology.
I first noticed a connection to UFO's and Mary back when I was a practicing Catholic. I used to subscribe to Omni magazine and discovered UFO's and visions of Mary were happening in the same areas.
These fallen angels were considered gods in the Old Testament times by the gentiles and pagans. They demanded blood and sacrifices, these same beings are now killing cattle in their lust for blood.
In the medieval times these beings came as fairies and elves. They would take traveling people into caves and prod them with magical wands, as described here: http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/UFOs/ufofairies.htm
These evil spirits have been with man since the garden of Eden. It's time we took authority over them and not be afraid. UFO's and aliens are not a friendly happening. They are real, they are evil, and they are malicious.
The appearance of UFO's are uncommon. And in most cases what is seen and misunderstood is actually aircraft or some natural cause/phenomena. And in fewer cases people may be seeing new secret military aircraft. And still in even more fewer cases people may be seeing visions or hallucinations by a demon or even a temporary physical manifestation by a demon. And I believe the least amount of occurrences would be represented by actual hybrids, clones, or what I call "flesh bots". But we cannot know with any certainty the exact statistics of which kind of encounters are being manifested. We can guess and hypothesize by understating scripture and the ways of the spirit. But just as in theology and doctrine, its by faith and as scripture says, we see darkly. There remains a mystery until Jesus returns and reveals all things.
UFO links (these links may be useful and interesting, but be warned many Christian UFO sites use bad doctrines in discussing the topic):
CE4 Research Group
Testimonies of Freedom
Documentary from the History Channel: Secret Access: Most Credible UFOs
One alien described in the next link is very similar to the kind a demon I once saw. The 2nd link is to my testimony where you can read about the story of how I saw the demon:
The Kelly Cahill Encounter
My Personal Testimony
Links of interest:
Astrology, Psychics, Ghosts
Scripture & Conspiracy
Are the Governments Corrupted?